I'm on my third day on Androtest solo @ 6 caps per day. Feeling nothing.
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GST on My Fusion Androtest log - My first PH Cycle
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UnshavedSlayer on Nootropics Question
Did you even search for them 
http://www.predatornutrition.com/en/sale.....ge-60-caps
http://www.predatornutrition.com/en/ingr.....s/choline/
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Greenthumb on support supps for Androtest cycle
jackURbody said
A regular works drugtest will only test for common abused substance via urine,, they dont test for elevated test levels or elevated hormone serums. They dont have the money to throw away testing for steroids.
Ok thanks doesnt have to bother about that then.
Is there a risk for gyno on Androtest?
Feels good so far,exept sleep.
I have some Havoc left, is it a good idea to add in say 30mg/ed last 14 days of the cycle?
I dont have any use for them anyway and maybe they help a bit with strengthgains..?
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FatBoySlimFast on support supps for Androtest cycle
There is a risk of gyno with anything that aromatises(as testosterone does) which is the target hormone of androtest.
Can't see much point in adding the Havoc as in my experience it usually takes a least two weeks to 'kick in'. If you've run havoc before then you should have an idea how long it takes to have an effect o yourself.
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FatBoySlimFast on Iforce Max Out?
KillaHertz has left a review of the product here and he has a lot of experience with pre workouts.
http://forum.predatornutrition.com/forum.....e-max-out/
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Mickfootie on Pushing through the Plateus with Blue Star Nutraceuticals
Legs!!!!
It was leg time again but did a little different today.
The Workout -
10 minute on rowing machine
Leg Ext. - 5 sets @ 20 reps to warm through
Hack Squats - As many sets to hit over 200 reps
Deadlifts - As many sets to hit over 100 reps
Leg Ext. - 5 Sets increasing weight in each
Leg Curls/DB Lun superset - 3 sets
Calve raises - 6 drop sets
Thoughts and Feelings -
Different approach today on legs. No attempts of any new records just a battering of them with a higher repped approach.
Stamina and muscle endurance good especially on the Hack Squats and Deads. Some size coming on my quads, all be it small change but its a change and a gain. Also the outer sweep is progressing too.
Did as many sets required to push out what i wanted on the Hacks and Deads. Had a figure in my head on how many sets and did it within the thoughts..... 
The pump was very good but painfull (Good Pain!!!!) in the whole upper leg area. They are definatley going to ache in the morning.
All other aspects from focus to energy etc was very good as my legs where giving up near the end of some exercises but my mind kept them going!
Next workout is Saturday morning as busy all day tomorrow.
ges
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GST on support supps for Androtest cycle
It's my fourth day on Androtest - 6 caps a day. Noticing nothing at all 
My first ph cycle. If i'm still noticing nothing next week, I will up my dose to 12 caps a day just to see if this is total bullshit. Actually, I am noticing a bit of a short fuse with this, since I feel like I just drowned 100 € down the drain 
What's your timing with the pills? I'm having a hard time understanding the logic behind the dosing. First of all, having gone through every Patrick Arnold comment available on 4-AD, it seems that the minimum one-time dosage should be 300 mg per time (hard to tell how much is actually in one caps besides the cyclodextrin).
Also, if the problem with these is the half-life, how on earth would one big dose (based on PA and Predator Nutrition's comment) be the most optimal? Any opinions?
Also, with or without food, or at least fat? There seems to be no consensus on this one. I've been taking mine with some fat.
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Leeb123 on support supps for Androtest cycle
GST said
It's my fourth day on Androtest - 6 caps a day. Noticing nothing at all
My first ph cycle. If i'm still noticing nothing next week, I will up my dose to 12 caps a day just to see if this is total bullshit. Actually, I am noticing a bit of a short fuse with this, since I feel like I just drowned 100 € down the drain
What's your timing with the pills? I'm having a hard time understanding the logic behind the dosing. First of all, having gone through every Patrick Arnold comment available on 4-AD, it seems that the minimum one-time dosage should be 300 mg per time (hard to tell how much is actually in one caps besides the cyclodextrin).
Also, if the problem with these is the half-life, how on earth would one big dose (based on PA and Predator Nutrition's comment) be the most optimal? Any opinions?
Also, with or without food, or at least fat? There seems to be no consensus on this one. I've been taking mine with some fat.
Its only day 4 mate. You got no signs at all? Raised temperature? Libido increase? Shit sleep?
Just stick to the 6 thats the max recommended dosage. Kicking it up to 12 will just amplify estrogen levels etc and can cause more problems.
Is your diet in check? You can actually eat a bit more on this as the chances of storing fat are very small. Up your food proteins carbs etc your routine all spot on with your workouts with plenty rest?
Just stick to it gains will come as long as your feeding your body and training well.
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GST on support supps for Androtest cycle
Leeb123 said
Its only day 4 mate. You got no signs at all? Raised temperature? Libido increase? Shit sleep?
Just stick to the 6 thats the max recommended dosage. Kicking it up to 12 will just amplify estrogen levels etc and can cause more problems.
Is your diet in check? You can actually eat a bit more on this as the chances of storing fat are very small. Up your food proteins carbs etc your routine all spot on with your workouts with plenty rest?
Just stick to it gains will come as long as your feeding your body and training well.
No signs at all mate. Sleep actually got a lot better, since I'm on less stimulants after starting Andro.
No temperature rise, libido just about normal, workouts a bit worse than normal since I left Frenzy out.
Diet in check, varying form of IF, protein around 300 g, carbs around 300, calories around 3500. Every second day I eat around ten whole eggs, and usually 500-1000g of vegetables per day. So in general, my diet is pretty solid, I also eat very clean throughout the year (even though I don't believe in clean eating to be anything superior to "normal eating"). I also eat majority of my protein from dairy sources, I've found that I recover a lot better on dairy than on red meat for example.
My bodyfat is 9% at the moment, had a small cut before starting the cycle, so at least it's easy to spot now changes in body composition and muscle mass.
Okay okay, maybe I'll just stick to 6 and don't start being an idiot.
How was your cycle, Leeb?
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FatBoySlimFast on Gain Mass + Cardio, Crossfit supplements?
halflife said
Hi there,
Many thanks for your reply!
The reason I mentioned Anabeta/HCgenerate was that they would act as test boosters to offset the shutdown from the PHs. I felt pretty bad during my Epistane cycle, so I want to avoid that happening again. Or is it that these natural test boosters don't really do much against a prohormone?
I'll definitely look into the products you mentioned. For Androtest, doesn't it aromatize? Will I need to run an AI in parallel? I take it its also quite suppressive, so would an OTC PCT actually work? How do I avoid feeling the shutdown effect when transitioning into PCT?
Thanks,
Alex
A complete waste of time imo adding a test booster to your cycle, it will do nothing to offset the shutdown from a PH.
I know HCGenerate is marketed as a supplement that is supposed to minimise shut-down during a cycle, and some of the reviews suggest that it works, but personally I'm not convinced!
The name is obviously taken from HCG (Human Chorionic Gonadatropin) which is used on cycle to help minimise testicular shut-down during a cycle, it does this by mimicking LH (Luteinising hormone) to stimulate the testes to produce testosterone, even when natural LH is absent or deficient. So personally I can't see a supplement which is basically a bunch of herbs, having the same effect.
Androtest can aromatise, yes. So it may well be wise to have an AI on hand in case.
Something like BLR Formeron works well, and if not used on cycle is adequate for PCT. I found androtest was not very suppressive at all, and pct was a breeze using formeron.
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snakester on support supps for Androtest cycle
you may be like me after 40days on androtest i thought it was as bad as an poor natty test booster like i had zero in terms of results
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GST on support supps for Androtest cycle
Maybe that's why they're now having the Androtest + Fusion DAA combo for sale
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VaughnTrue on Iforce Max Out?
all of the reviews so far have been stellar. if you have any questions, please let me know
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Gym God on Pushing through the Plateus with Blue Star Nutraceuticals
200 reps in hack squats! Look our Friday night and Saturday morning! 
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Leeb123 on support supps for Androtest cycle
GST said
Leeb123 said
Its only day 4 mate. You got no signs at all? Raised temperature? Libido increase? Shit sleep?
Just stick to the 6 thats the max recommended dosage. Kicking it up to 12 will just amplify estrogen levels etc and can cause more problems.
Is your diet in check? You can actually eat a bit more on this as the chances of storing fat are very small. Up your food proteins carbs etc your routine all spot on with your workouts with plenty rest?
Just stick to it gains will come as long as your feeding your body and training well.
No signs at all mate. Sleep actually got a lot better, since I'm on less stimulants after starting Andro.
No temperature rise, libido just about normal, workouts a bit worse than normal since I left Frenzy out.
Diet in check, varying form of IF, protein around 300 g, carbs around 300, calories around 3500. Every second day I eat around ten whole eggs, and usually 500-1000g of vegetables per day. So in general, my diet is pretty solid, I also eat very clean throughout the year (even though I don't believe in clean eating to be anything superior to "normal eating"). I also eat majority of my protein from dairy sources, I've found that I recover a lot better on dairy than on red meat for example.
My bodyfat is 9% at the moment, had a small cut before starting the cycle, so at least it's easy to spot now changes in body composition and muscle mass.
Okay okay, maybe I'll just stick to 6 and don't start being an idiot.
How was your cycle, Leeb?
My cycle was rotten mate i didnt stick it out. It was knocking my sleep so bad. From 8 hours usual to around 3 a night all broken up. I was a crazy heat on this stuff aswell sweating with the air con in the car lol. I felt like death with it and my job requires machinery used and a just had no focus next day so a says quit this before i hurt myself. Sleep body temp all returnes to normal after a couple days and been perfect since.
IF.. Intermittent fasting? Amazing diet setup. Just no long started it myself. Just a small calorie surplus for me. Feels alot better cause a can pack away alot of food and doing it over 2 sittings in 6 hours a feel so much better through out the day than trying to do smaller meals and spaced out
You gonna stick it out? What made you choose Androtest?
By the looks of your full routine you should just keep training hard mate i reckon you will see some changes soon. You running anything other supplements? Pre workouts etc?
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Melbar Kasom on Komodo Nutraceuticals Katana has landed at Predator!
Cust Serv told me it will take 6 more weeks.
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oliver dean on Iforce Max Out?
VaughnTrue said
all of the reviews so far have been stellar. if you have any questions, please let me know
When is predator likely to receive it ? i am going to try a tub for sure.
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Melbar Kasom on Assault Nano Series - Halo
I would love to buy this product in europe because my experience with the the AL and IL nano products is great. I
assume this product is superior as well. I hope PN will stock this product.
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joeblack on Iforce Max Out?
In stock already but with an ingredient not available for the USA (Amp Citrate).
Any reviews on the EU version Vaughn?
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VaughnTrue on Iforce Max Out?
Only real diff is swapping out Amp Citrate for Synephrine, so the EU version should garner better reviews IMO.
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